A good job…
Un bon emploi…
A good job has a good salary, makes you happy, and have a future.
challenges your mind but also makes you feel useful and needed in the world. A good job doesn’t leave you to figure everything out, but allows you to have a mentor or someone around who can show you the works. You shouldn’t be afraid or dread going to work – you should look forward to it. Good pay helps too, of course, but that’s not the only thing that should matter.
gives the opportunity for constant growth and learning, is flexible to your personal needs, is like a second family, motivates its employee to achieve results
helps you realize your dream and interests; pays decently; provides an environment where people cooperate and communicate with each other
is enjoyable, rewarding, is fulfilling and makes a decent amount of money.
is fulfilling, important, and challenging.
is mentally stimulating, interesting, and is in an area you want to learn more about.
is one that you love.
is one you enjoy, pays adequately, lets you progress, challenges you
is something that makes you happy, gives you enough money, is challenging and worth the effort
keeps one’s mind agile and one’s soul nourished.
makes you happy
pays well, has a culture that you can fit in well with, and pushes people to do well without destroying their outside lives.
assure la sécurité de l’emploi. est un emploi pour lequel on aime se lever
c’est celui que j’aime faire. bien payé. valorisant.
comprend un bon salaire et un intérêt.
concerne un domaine qui m’intéresse, auquel je suis heureux d’appartenir et est bien rémunéré.
est intéressant
est intéressant et bien payé si possible :).
est intéressant, pas trop stressant, avec des collaborateurs sympathiques.
est motivant. est bien payé.
Est passionnant
est satisfaisant intellectuellement. rapporte assez d’argent pour vivre.
est un emploi avec un bon compromis entre plaisir de l’activité et le montant du salaire.
est un emploi où les relations avec les collègues sont bonnes et où le salaire est élevé.
est un emploi qui nous plaît et qui nous motive tout en ayant un salaire convenable
est un emploi stable, où l’on se sent épanouï et où on ne s’ennuie pas
est un emploi stable, qui passionne, n’est pas répétitif
rémunère convenablement, est un emploi qui me plaît, a un cadre sympathique
répond à nos attentes (salaire, temps de travail, responsabilités)
Discussion
by mpeysale, March 7, 2014, 10:26 AM
Des deux côtés, un bon emploi doit être intéressant, le salaire est un aspect important, mais pas nécessairement obligatoire. Le cadre de travail est aussi un point souvent évoqué : une bonne ambiance de travail est nécessaire à l’épanouissement.
by esparrs, March 7, 2014, 3:06 PM
For the most part, the Americans are very much focused on finding a job (eventually) that will make them happy – one that they will enjoy. This includes being challenging and fulfilling. It seems like the French are on the same page: they want to find a job that seems very interesting to them but also accompanied by the worry of stability. For Americans, this may be a product of the American Dream. What do you think?
by Rachel A, March 10, 2014, 2:50 AM
Another interesting thing is that at least three French students mentioned job stability, something that is absent on the American side. Why do you think this is so? It’s a little surprising to me because America did experience a lot of layoffs in the last few years. Is France experiencing them more recently? Or are we MIT students just feeling confident of job security?
by mbennaim, March 10, 2014, 6:05 AM
Both sides have similar responses overall about having a job that is enjoyable, interesting, and good salary. In general, I found that the French responses focused on salary more than the American ones. Many of the American responses that mentioned salary really only mentioned having enough money to be comfortable, not necessarily to be rich. For the most part, the American responses valued an interesting and challenging job more than the actual salary. On the other hand, the French side did not really focus on challenging and instead focused on a job that is good paying and stable. This interesting that the French students were concerned about job security. There have been economic problems in both countries, but have French students been more directly exposed to real-world jobs than the American ones? I know that I, for one, have not really cared that much about job security so far because I have only had summer internships so far.
by kelex33, MarchH 10, 2014, 8:11 AM
@Rachel A
Je pense que le problème de stabilité de l’emploi est un problème sociétal en France. Sans emploi stable, il est difficile d’acheter un bien immobilier (les emprunts sont plus difficile), même si le secteur de l’informatique semble relativement épargné par une crise de l’emploi.
Est-ce aussi votre cas aux Etats-Unis ?
Pour le reste, comme le dis Marc, l’accomplissement personnel semble une part importante de la définition d’un bon emploi, et ce autant pour nous français que pour vous américains.
by esparrs, March 10, 2014, 1:20 PM
I also see that there may be a slight difference between the American and French: Americans are always looking to be actively challenged where as the French are looking for, as @kelex33 said, a stable, comfortable job.
by dengxinyue0420, March 10, 2014, 2:17 PM
Mostly, Americans and French mention that a job should be interesting and it should offer good salary. However, French mention money more that Americans do. They might pay more attention on the salary and stability of a job, but Americans want to find something makes them happy and stimulating. The words Americans use are more active. I think “make you happy” means a lot and slightly different from “interesting”, and this depends on how one values one’s needs.
by wandujar, March 10, 2014, 8:01 PM
La stabilité ne vous importe pas dans votre emploi ? La plupart d’entre vous est prêt à déménager tous les ans ou partir en mission plusieurs mois d’affilé loin de votre foyer pour votre travail ?
by megania2014, March 11, 2014, 2:10 AM
I think it’s just more expected here that you will have more than one job in your lifetime. Even people in fairly high-up or specialized jobs often change careers from time to time. With regard to housing, it’s kind of the same here in that you can’t get a loan without proof of a job. However, they don’t care as much about your chances of keeping that job in the future. Instead, they look at your past history for paying off loans, and they only care about your current employment because they want you to be able to pay the loan right now.
by esparrs, March 11, 2014, 12:34 AM
Many MIT students seem to want to take more risks. Many of us are interested in entrepreneurship, which is an extremely unstable. I agree with @megania2014, we tend to expect to switch jobs somewhere down the line. It’s very interesting to see how our attitudes differ. Do the French typically stick with one job throughout their lifetimes?
by mbennaim, March 11, 2014, 4:24 AM
Stability is important for most Americans, but I think that most MIT students are not as concerned with stability as they are with other factors like enjoying their job. People expect to switch jobs every so often and MIT students generally have good job prospects, so job security is not always on people’s minds while in MIT.
@wandujar, I don’t think that most people expect to travel that much for their jobs unless they are doing some thing like consulting, but I think that at least for their first few years most people are okay with moving a few times.
by mpeysale, March 11, 2014, 12:51 PM
@esparrs Les français sont en règle générale assez attachés à leur emploi, et à sa stabilité. Souvent, en début de carrière, on passe d’emploi en emploi pour gagner en expérience et faire augmenter son salaire, mais assez rapidement, on essaie de trouver un travail stable qui permet par exemple d’obtenir un emprunt immobilier.
by sgtdede, March 11, 2014, 4:04 PM
Les mêmes idées reviennent des deux côtés. Mais les américains ont peut être tendance à donner un place plus importante qu travail en terme d’épanouissement et d’accomplissement. Les français ont tendance à rechercher un travail qui ne soit pas désagréable mais ont peut être moins d’attentes envers ce travail.
by mbennaim, March 13, 2014, 5:20 AM
@sgtdede
I agree with your analysis that Americans focus more on challenges while the French focus on job stability. Has this focus on job stability always been so important in France, or just since the recent economic problems? In America, it is fairly common for people to switch jobs, especially early in their careers.
by plefebvre91, March 13, 2014, 12:56 PM
Notre volonté d’une stabilité de l’emploi est certainement présente depuis toujours en France. À un moment donné, on souhaite se poser pour fonder une famille, acheter une maison (un bateau, etc…) et se focaliser plus sur notre vie personnelle que sur notre vie professionnelle (?)
by esparrs, March 13, 2014, 2:00 PM
@mpeysale I definitely understand where you’re coming from. Now although we (the American students) are very open to trying out different career paths/jobs, we also should not hide the fact that there are millions of people here who are on the same page as you – find a stable job in order to create a living around it. I don’t know if that’s necessarily due to our culture difference but rather due to our different perspectives on careers (for example, my parents would love for my to stay at one job and climb the ranks – having a very stable lifestyle).
by xmaillard, March 15, 2014, 6:04 PM
Je pense que la définition d’un “bon job” peut évoluer au cours de la carrière, en début de carrière, il est normal d’essayer d’obtenir un job qui nous permettent de nous améliorer, même s’il peut nécessité un grand investissement personnel. Le fait de changer de travail de manière fréquente quand on est jeune n’est pas un problème et cela permet de découvrir plusieurs domaines et également d’accroître notre salaire. Cependant, passé un certain âge, il est préférable d’avoir un emploi stable, pour des raisons familiales par exemple, mais aussi parce que les entreprises sont souvent réticentes à l’idée de recruter des séniors. Il est donc commun de rechercher du travail dans des entreprises plus grandes en fin de carrière, assurant plus de stabilité.
by mpeysale, April 5, 2014, 8:11 PM
@esparrs Je pense que c’est en partie du à l’évolution de la société. Il y a quelques dizaines d’années, lorsqu’on entrait dans une entreprise, on y restait jusqu’à la fin de sa vie. On change beaucoup plus d’emploi de nos jours. Il est peut-être plus difficile de gravir les échelons dans une seule et même entreprise…
by jfgaleazzi, April 8, 2014, 2:58 PM
La notion de “bon job” reste, à mon avis, quelque chose de très personnel. En effet, certains voudront un emploi stable et sécurisé même si le salaire n’est pas énorme alors que pour un bon métier sera un emploi où ils pourront voyager ou prendre des risques, que les lendemains ne se ressemblent pas.